龍井樹
2010/7/19 14:08 
回復 20# vincent123

唔駛改,繼續...
vincent123
2010/7/19 14:20 
將軍)是紅將黑
(將軍)是黑將紅
vincent123
2010/7/19 15:48 
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龍井樹
2010/7/19 16:31 
回復 23# vincent123

你第十五回合將4平5,我馬六進四掛角將就完了,沒有第十七回合。
vincent123
2010/7/19 16:35 
回復 24# 龍井樹


是啊......
龍井樹
2010/7/19 18:31 
回復 25# vincent123

第五回合我平炮, 你就應該上士了, 或是平車打我的炮.
火柴
2010/7/20 03:58 
回復  vincent123

第五回合我平炮, 你就應該上士了, 或是平車打我的炮.
龍井樹 發表於 2010/7/19 18:31

這些步法往往是中過招才記得的。我都中過幾次(通常我和對手下得很快,後幾次算是盲棋)。
龍井樹
2010/7/20 10:06 
回復 27# 火柴

古譜裡面有中炮對單提馬的,也不怕這一著「柳條穿魚」,進中兵棄馬搶攻,直搗黃龍,一口氣把對方將軍拿下。你可有印象嗎?
vincent123
2010/7/20 22:29 
回復 26# 龍井樹


比你串左...
火柴
2010/7/22 06:32 
回復 28# 龍井樹
無印象,我對古譜認識不多,就是「海底撈月」之類也是過目即忘XD
龍井樹
2010/7/22 08:21 
回復 30# 火柴

看《橘中秘》卷上第十三局:

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1](一本)[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]近代棋手改走炮8平7||||李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]下著變十二[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]變十二[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]下著變十[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]變十[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]下著變五[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16]變五[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]下著變三[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20]變三[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]下著變二[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30]變二[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_30](二變接本)[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_20](三變接本)[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]下著變增(變四)[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]變增(變四)[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]不如棄車吃馬!||聿注[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_26](四變接增)[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_31]彼車不進三仍去馬勝(原注)[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_16](五變接本)下著變九[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]變九[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]下著變六[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_20]變六[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_21]應車九平八較占先手||李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]軟手,黑應炮2進2||||紅失子劣||李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]應馬4進3 ||||李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]劣著,應走馬8進6||||李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_20](六變接五)[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]下著變七[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_22]變七||||應車4平2保炮[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_29]應車八進八,可速勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]仍應車八進八||||李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]應將6平5||||李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_36]紅一時難以成殺||||||李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_22](七變竣說^[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]應馬3進4 打車||||李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_27]下著變八[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_28]變八[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28](八變接七)[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_17](九變接五)(自變)[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_18]應卒3進1||||李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_26]自毀防線,應車8進4堅守[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]欠緊湊,應車5進2,可迅速入局||||李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_31]應炮五進五,紅可速勝???||||李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_27]李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_28]以下為聿擬[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_18]李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_11](十變接本)(自變)[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_16]應炮2進4打馬||||李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_22]宜車4 進6捉馬||||李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_30]應車4進2 ||||李更本增注[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_31]下著變十一[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_32]變十一[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_35]雙照[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_32](十一變接十)[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_8](十二變接本)||此著||多廢了一步||聿注[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_8]
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第八回合黑方炮6進5,就是「柳條穿魚」。紅方採取不理不睬的態度,按照原定計劃全力進攻,最終取得勝利。
vincent123
2010/7/22 12:52 
本帖最後由 vincent123 於 2010/7/22 13:04 編輯

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此局是棄車,不是棄馬!!
龍井樹
2010/7/22 12:57 
回復 32# vincent123


    棄車以後,得到補償了嗎?
vincent123
2010/7/22 13:05 
回復 33# 龍井樹



吃掉對方車馬
龍井樹
2010/7/22 13:22 
回復 34# vincent123

用馬擋又怎樣?

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vincent123
2010/7/22 13:25 
回復 35# 龍井樹

沒想到...抄棋書的...
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龍井樹
2010/7/22 14:17 
回復 36# vincent123

06.馬五進七 馬5進7

從哪部書找來的?紅三七兵未動,一般不會走成這個樣子的,通常黑方會演變成屏風馬兩頭蛇的局面。見下一帖。
龍井樹
2010/7/22 14:21 
《象棋最新布局法--第四集》p.109

14. 中炮直橫車對屏風馬兩頭蛇

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龍井樹
2010/7/22 14:49 
再看這一局:

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